Jenny – A Jill of All Trades
Episode #97: Welcome to the She Builds Show! Prepare to be inspired by the multifaceted journey of a true Renaissance woman, Jenny Crozier, as we sit down with her in this captivating podcast episode. Jenny is a woman of many hats, each one showcasing her indomitable spirit and passion for making a difference in both the construction and trucking worlds.
Hailing from the picturesque Mount Pleasant, Utah, Jenny’s life is a dynamic blend of roles and responsibilities. She’s a devoted wife and mother, a skilled builder, an influential social media figure, a safety compliance manager, a tradeswoman, and a gifted writer. Jenny is also a proud co-owner of Crozier Construction Services LLC, where she serves as a safety compliance manager, ensuring that every construction project prioritizes the safety of all involved.
However, Jenny’s story doesn’t stop there. She’s also an accomplished author, an ambassador for empowerment, and an advocate for women in the trades. Her passion shines through as she dedicates herself to inspiring the next generation to pursue fulfilling careers in the trades, using creative tools and products to make the journey enjoyable and accessible.
Discover how Jenny is building doors and breaking barriers, one empowering story at a time.
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ABOUT JENNY CROZIER:
Jenny Crozier is a woman of many hats. She is a wife, a mom, a builder, an influencer, a safety compliance manager, a tradeswoman, a writer, and a true Jill of all trades. She is from Mount Pleasant, Utah, Jenny is a proud co-owner of Crozier Construction Services LLC where she does general contracting with her husband on residential new construction, additions and remodels. She works as a safety compliance manager for Delta Valley Trucking, ensuring that the construction projects are safe for everyone involved.
She is a member of the Utah Valley Home Builders Association, the National Association of Women in Construction (NAWIC), Utah PWB, Utah WBC, Empowering Women In Industry, and is an ambassador The Crew Collaborative.
Jenny received the 2022 Outstanding Women’s Award with the Women’s Builders Council, the Hamlet Homes Female Builder Grant, Star Trucker of the Quarter, and has been nominated for several other awards throughout her career including Trades Woman of the 2023 year with Empowering Women in Industry.
Jenny comes from a long line of hard-working blue-collar generations, and her love for the trades is deeply rooted in her family history. She’s a fierce advocate for women in the trades, and she uses her platform to showcase the awesomeness of trade careers to future generations.
In addition to the the construction and trucking industries, Jenny is an accomplished author, ambassador, and empowered woman who’s passionate about empowering the next generation to find careers in the trades through fun tools and products. She’s a gal in the construction and trucking world, building doors and breaking barriers in male-dominated industries.
Jenny recently published the children’s book: Jenny a Jill of all Trades, I am a Welder. The first in a series highlighting job opportunities in skilled trades. She believes in shining a positive light and excitement on hard-working blue-collar opportunities.
In her spare time, Jenny loves to work with fun tools and products, create woodworking projects, and share her knowledge with others through writing and speaking engagements. She’s a true Renaissance woman who’s not afraid to get her hands dirty and make things happen. She loves working in both the construction and trucking industries where she continues to break barriers and recruit women and up and coming generations into skilled trades jobs.
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• Website: https://www.jennyajillofalltrades.com
• Website: https://thejaneschool.org/jenny-crozier
• Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecommittedbuilder
• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jenny-crozier-69923a24
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EPISODE TRANSCRIPT:
0:01 Welcome to the She Builds Show.
0:03 I’m your host, Stefanie Olson, a licensed general contractor who builds new construction, renovates and designs your vision today.
0:12 More than ever we need raw, authentic women who are willing to rise above society’s norms, break those glass ceilings and encourage each other to boldly build the life we were meant to live.
0:24 So, honey, what are you building?
0:27 All right.
0:28 Welcome to the She Builds Show.
0:29 We have Jenny as our guest today.
0:33 Welcome to the show.
0:34 Thank you so much for having me today.
0:36 You are welcome.
0:37 Can you take the shortest time possible and tell people what you do?
0:43 Oh, man.
0:44 Ok.
0:45 So I really am a Jenny, Jill of all trades and I just do a little of everything.
0:49 I do general contracting, but I actually do all the work pretty much when we set out very little.
0:54 I co-owned the company with my husband.
0:56 I work as a safety compliance manager for a truck company, and I am now a children’s author of a book.
1:03 Oh, my goodness, Jenny.
1:06 Right.
1:06 And a mom and a wife and all the life stuff too.
1:09 All the personal, amazing things.
1:11 Is there anything like, specifically that like has been on your heart lately or that you just, like, want to talk about or share, like, I just, you know, I’m just wondering if there’s anything because you do have so many things that you’re doing and there’s so many exciting things.
1:25 Is there anything specifically that you’re like ultra excited about?
1:28 Oh, this book coming out has been so fun.
1:31 And now I’m invited to go to Fab Tech, which is the biggest welders expo in the nation and do like a book signing and I’m just blown away.
1:38 I’ve never even flown by myself alone before.
1:41 So I’m just excited about all these opportunities and, and what’s next?
1:47 Awesome.
1:47 So tell me about the book.
1:49 Then, what’s the book?
1:50 Look, I even have a picture I can show it’s called Chinny, a Chill of All Trades.
1:57 And then this one, I am a welder.
1:59 I’m gonna have a whole series.
2:00 I’ve already got the second one started and I wanted to show these kids about the trades because when I go in and talk to Elementaries, it’s like they don’t know what’s available.
2:09 They don’t see the vision because no one showed it to them and they don’t, a lot of them don’t have goals or ambitions like we did growing up as far as like, oh, I want to be this or this.
2:20 They don’t have that anymore.
2:21 And so it’s fun to get in front of them and have a visual of a job that maybe they hadn’t considered.
2:28 That’s my goal with the books.
2:29 How long has this been in the works for you?
2:32 Like, when did the idea come?
2:34 And I have always wanted to be an author, but I would say, I think it took about a year to get this one completed.
2:41 And it’s the fun thing about it is, it’s me like this is my body and my PPE and with my tools and like, I’m doing the job.
2:48 And so it’s fun because I get to tell them and take all my stuff and show the kids like my helmets and my, you know, hammers and my whatever and it’s just, yeah, so it, it was a really fun project and the kids seemed to really love it and I love that these little girls are like, wait, wait, you can beauty and beast.
3:05 Like you can look like all shiny and glittery but like it can get dirty.
3:10 And so I love that, like seeing their little minds, right?
3:14 That you can be both.
3:15 I think that that’s a beautiful statement.
3:16 It was actually funny.
3:17 I went to a birthday party on Friday and like I walked in, and I’ve got a cute outfit on.
3:24 Like I went shopping, I had like leather pants on and like this little top and some heels which is not my normal.
3:32 And my plumber and his wife walk in like at the same time and I’m like, what’s up, Sam?
3:38 And then his wife, I’m like, went to go give her a hug because we’ve known each other for a long time and she’s like, who are you?
3:46 And like, you lady?
3:48 And she was like, oh my gosh, I never see you dressed up.
3:52 And I’m like, yeah, I give you both, you know, like I can do something, and you don’t have to just be one thing And I think that that is a nice thing to be able to talk about and accept that.
4:03 Like, yeah, I can’t, there is a side of me that does like to dress up and does like to look nice.
4:08 It’s not every day and I couldn’t wear those heels for very long.
4:12 But I, I’m still a woman.
4:15 Right.
4:15 And I still like to look beautiful and there’s definitely that side of me and I love that you’re letting like little girls know that like, you don’t have to just fit in one box.
4:25 Yes, because there is no box.
4:27 I mean, really nobody fits it anymore.
4:29 I mean, I think there used to be kind of a box but anymore it’s like, no, there’s not even a box, there’s not even a box.
4:36 No.
4:36 And there shouldn’t be.
4:37 So let’s not root it out there.
4:39 You know, like let’s keep expanding what the possibilities are because they’re endless, like they’re endless.
4:44 Absolutely.
4:45 So then you, you’ve done the book and tell me about your which I think is so amazing.
4:52 And thank you for doing that and thank you for getting in front of kids and just giving them something tangible to read and look at and I’m excited to see like, what is Jenny going to do next?
5:04 And that’s the fun part for me too.
5:05 I’m like, ok, what’s the job I’m on that?
5:07 I can take pictures, like doing the job to cut my head off, you know, and it’s fun to like preplan and to actually be able to maybe pick jobs that tailor to what I’m working on.
5:17 So that’s kind of fun.
5:19 That’s so cool.
5:19 So, was Welding the first thing that you learned or like, where did it start?
5:25 I’ve just always really liked welding and my welding is ugly.
5:28 I don’t claim to be a good welder.
5:29 I’m usually like, spot fixing something because it broke or, you know, that kind of a thing.
5:35 But Welding has always fascinated me, and I just had a really good community of people.
5:40 So I, that’s why I started there because I do think, you know, the whole it takes a village is true, especially if you want to reach kids and if you want to have, you know, your fingers in these schools and it’s like I needed to, to really study some of these professionals and, and learn some of that stuff.
5:58 So that’s why I started with building.
6:00 It’s not the first thing I learned.
6:02 Oh, gosh.
6:04 I don’t know.
6:05 What’s the first thing we learned, I guess to walk then?
6:08 Where did the experience or the drive or the passion or like the commitment to construction come from?
6:15 Like where did it start?
6:17 So I’ve always grown up with blue collar workers and trades people in my family.
6:22 I originally wanted to be a mechanic when I was younger, but there was never any opportunity.
6:27 I never got into any of the schools.
6:29 No one wanted me.
6:30 So they sent me to beauty school, which was fine.
6:32 I learned a lot there too.
6:33 It’s a trade also.
6:34 And I think all the trades are important.
6:36 I hope to cover them all at the end of the series, which will probably be never, it’s probably really endless.
6:43 Yeah.
6:44 But I’ve always just, you know, it’s so funny.
6:46 People would always tell me you’re so creative and it’s true.
6:50 I am creative, but it was like more than that, like I was creatively building things and creatively like, not just like I wasn’t artistic necessarily, I was creative in my thinking, I knew I wanted to find a spouse who could fix things and do things, or I could not be with that person.
7:08 And so I picked a husband who was in the trades, he is a contractor, and I just knew I wanted to be around that always.
7:15 And so I always was part of everything.
7:17 And then after being a stay-at-home mom for 15 years and just kind of being I, I used to call myself the building bitch like I would tease because literally anything he would ask me to do, I would do it.
7:28 And then finally, I’m like, no, I’m going to be the boss now.
7:30 Like we’re going to be like co-owner in this and we’re going to do it together.
7:34 So for the last five years, that’s what we’ve done.
7:37 I was always there and behind the scenes, but I wasn’t taking the active role that I wanted just because it wasn’t that time.
7:44 So once my kids didn’t need me within the walls of my own home, I’m like, let’s see what I can do.
7:49 So, yay.
7:50 That’s awesome.
7:51 So, how old are your kids now?
7:54 They’re 19, 18 and 10.
7:57 Ok.
7:57 Awesome.
7:58 You have a busy house.
7:59 I have 9, 11 and 19.
8:02 So, yeah, the span is good and they’re just to that point where, you know, they are little self-sufficient humans.
8:09 They need me but not like they did.
8:11 Yeah, when they’re baby babies.
8:12 Yeah.
8:13 What’s it like working with your husband?
8:16 It’s good.
8:17 It’s so fun.
8:18 I really do think the magic comes with men and women together.
8:22 I’m just pro anyone who wants to get into the trades because we think so differently, we’ll go to the same job and he’ll be doing something and I’ll be like, well, why did you do it like that?
8:31 I would have done it like this and actually we were marking something.
8:36 Not that long ago.
8:37 Oh, I think it was the tie downs or something and he was measuring and doing that.
8:41 I’m like, no, no, no, you just got to go like this and you just, and he’s like, I have to tell my dad because his dad’s a contractor and he’s like, we have been doing it this other way all these years and it’s way harder.
8:51 He’s like, you come in here and you’re just like, no, boom, boom, boom.
8:53 Here it is.
8:53 And I’m like, that’s because we just think differently.
8:56 So I like it because, you know, if I can dream it, he can help me figure out how to build it if I can’t.
9:02 And if he has a question on something, he’ll ask me and he’ll be like, oh, ok.
9:06 Yeah, that would work way good.
9:08 I haven’t thought of that.
9:09 So I like the two together.
9:11 Absolutely.
9:12 I do too.
9:12 And I think I bounce a lot of stuff off my husband as well and just having like a close person that you trust that has a, you know, knowledge experience and a different perspective I think is awesome.
9:24 And I mean, sometimes I’m sure that there’s frustrations that happen, but I think it is so important that we’re just like everybody is welcome and like everybody has an option or an opinion or a say, what do you guys primarily do?
9:43 Like in the construction business?
9:45 We do a lot of custom-built homes, but we also do a ton of updates, like remodels because we live in a rural area and there’s a lot of really old homes.
9:54 And so we do a lot of, like, historical re reboots, I guess.
10:02 Yeah, it’s like you want to keep all the feelings and the flavors there, you just want to update them so that it’s functional, but still has that same feel.
10:09 So, and so like, what is your primary role?
10:13 Like give me the layout of your business.
10:15 Like is it just you guys?
10:17 Yeah, I, I heard you say you don’t have a lot of stuff out.
10:19 So do you have a lot of internal employees?
10:22 What’s kind of the structure?
10:24 It’s us.
10:24 It’s just me and my husband and then, and then we’re a rag tag crew.
10:29 Like if we’re pouring concrete, like my son will come help and my dad or his dad.
10:33 And I mean, we really are just kind of this little family.
10:37 We both have compliance day jobs from, you know, like 6 a.m. to two.
10:42 And then our passion in building is the rest of the day.
10:45 So we kind of get to be choosy and pick what projects we do.
10:49 And usually there’s not like a huge hurry because we tell them it’s just us like it’s not going to be a quick overnight thing, but I love that, you know, you get to know your clients and you get to know and a lot of them will still live there during this process.
11:03 So they’re literally there.
11:05 And it’s, yeah, that’s kind of how we are.
11:07 We’re not so really from everything from like design and engineering, digging out concrete.
11:14 I mean, like to finish.
11:15 Like we just do everything we do, sub out h back plumbing and electrical.
11:19 But other than that, we pretty much do everything.
11:21 So you’re like pouring concrete, framing, roofing, drywall, paint, tile, counters, cabinets?
11:32 We do a little bit, but usually if we restore them, like that’s usually on me.
11:36 But if we actually, if they want all new, we do actually get those through whoever they choose.
11:42 Right.
11:43 That’s incredible.
11:43 So then did your husband learn every single trade and then, like, taught you was that like, and then it’s just you guys working side by side.
11:53 So do you leave, work at two and go to work till when do you work 24 hours a day?
12:00 What is, it feels like it, it feels like it.
12:03 Yeah, that’s kind of, especially like the warm months.
12:06 I’m in Utah.
12:07 So there’s several months that we try to be, you know, dried in and on the inside.
12:12 But sometimes we just won’t pick to do stuff during the winter either, which is nice.
12:16 We’ll do just little jobs here and there.
12:18 We do a lot of, you know, this old lady called that needs fixed with this or that or you know, really my end game would be to be a charity and be able to help people that are either elderly or have physical disabilities find what they need to make their home functionable.
12:35 But, so, yeah, that’s awesome.
12:37 So, you do, you are working all day?
12:39 So, yeah, all the time.
12:42 Yeah.
12:42 And, you know, my, my boss at my trucking job is really good.
12:45 If I say, hey, I got a poor concrete today, he’ll be like, ok, no problem.
12:49 You know, and I just shift stuff around and as long as I’m getting stuff done, it’s all good.
12:52 So that’s awesome.
12:54 So tell me about the morning job.
12:57 So you’re in safety compliance for trucking, which has like another aspect of construction, the fleet of trucks as well.
13:06 So, you know, and he has this amazing woman that keeps everything.
13:12 Of course, of course, of course, that’s not me.
13:17 So what is your role there?
13:19 Is the safety compliance.
13:21 So just making sure everybody’s got the paperwork that they need and the drug tests that they need and that everybody’s lined up and I don’t do any of the dispatching or any of that.
13:30 We mostly hold cheese, which is cool because sometimes, you know, stuff falls off when it’s over, weighted or whatever.
13:37 So that’s always a fun bonus to score a little cheese now and then.
13:41 But yeah, so how many trucks are you guys running?
13:45 I think right now we have 24.
13:50 That’s 24.
13:51 Yeah.
13:51 And do you guys just do over the road stuff?
13:54 Yeah.
13:54 Yeah.
13:55 So, you’re just making sure everybody’s getting all their weight and all the things?
14:00 Yeah.
14:01 That’s awesome.
14:02 Lots of paperwork.
14:04 Yeah, that’s the paperwork.
14:05 So, what do you think, like, over the last five years has been your, maybe, like, your most favorite project.
14:14 Can you tell me about that?
14:15 No, I think just coming into my own as a person, I think for so long, I had been mom that you forget who you are a little bit like, you know, you’re in there, but it’s so a different time in my life, you know, and you don’t care as much about what, maybe someone might think about what you do or what.
14:36 I just don’t take stock into someone, one else having judgments anymore because it’s like, well, that’s on you.
14:41 I’m too busy.
14:42 I’ve got things to do.
14:43 Whereas when you’re younger, you take everything on and you’re like, well, then I need to change how I do this, or I need to change that.
14:49 So I would say my personal growth throughout this whole process and being able to have the confidence to do what I want to do and chase my goals and do the book.
14:58 And whereas before it’s like when you grow up, I don’t know, I was always, you didn’t brag about your successes.
15:04 You didn’t ask for help, you put your head down, you worked hard, and you hoped someone noticed, which there’s a lot of value in that, but there’s also a lot of value in saying, you know what I might could use some help here and hey, check this out, look what I did.
15:15 What can you do to make it better or, you know, I just feel like that part of my journey has been really nice.
15:23 Isn’t that cool?
15:24 So what do you, was there any specific thing that spurred that or was it just like this yearning inside?
15:30 Because I feel like everybody has that, you know, desire to do what they love or what excites them.
15:39 And a lot of times we just kind of like, shove it down and we just keep doing what we’re doing.
15:46 And, you know, I had a big moment like that in my life where it was just like, I’m done like being everything to everybody else.
15:54 Like that’s why I started this podcast.
15:56 It was just like, I need one thing in my life where it’s just me, you know, I didn’t take direction from anybody else I didn’t do because I’m a, I’m a doer and I’m a get shit done kind of girl.
16:10 And so that lends really well to people who want to get shit done.
16:15 So everybody would come to me and to be the, the person who’s getting all the things done.
16:20 And I was like, I don’t want to like, be the second person.
16:24 Like I want to be me, and I want to be able to shine in my own way and like, I just didn’t even care if nobody listened to this ever.
16:32 Like, it just did not matter to me.
16:33 Like I, you know, maybe that’s how you feel about your book.
16:36 Like I don’t care if only one person buys it.
16:38 This is like a product of my heart and soul and who I am and who I want to be in a step in the right direction.
16:44 So, was there anything that spurred it or started it or was it just like I’m done?
16:50 And I need to do this?
16:52 Like, where did it come from?
16:53 Because some people just don’t have the ability to listen well enough to that call to find them and take action.
17:03 So when you said you did something, I’m like, well, tell me how and why.
17:07 So if anyone’s like, heard any of my other podcasts, like this is the beginning of like my, wow, this is going to happen.
17:15 I went to rent equipment and they wouldn’t rent it to me.
17:18 They wanted my husband’s license.
17:19 They legit did not trust me to take their machine.
17:22 And I was like, well, there’s something that just sits with that that you’re like, well, that’s so dumb, you know.
17:29 So then I started like, well, no one’s ever going to treat me like that again.
17:33 So then I went and got certified in heavy machinery.
17:35 Operation because even though it’s just a piece of paper, it does help people see like your value.
17:41 And then I was the only girl.
17:43 So then it was like, me and my professors talking, and they were like, you should do a pageant.
17:46 And I was like, I am not pageant.
17:48 So then I was in the Mrs. Utah pageant, which changed my life forever just because I had never done anything that uncomfortable in my life.
17:56 I had never gone in a swimsuit on a stage.
17:59 I’d never been in a competition of any kind like that.
18:01 And it was so awesome.
18:04 It was the first time in my life because I’d always been a mom or in trades that I was surrounded by powerful women.
18:11 And it did change because like from the outside, you don’t see it like that, that like women in pageants are these powerful women, but they are, they are and I mean, they are dedicated and strong and they have all these qualities and then they’re so polished and refined.
18:27 Obviously, you’re going to click with some and not others.
18:29 And there’s always going to be, you know, some parts of any group of women that you’re going to be like, oh, that was a little catty because that’s just how we are sometimes.
18:36 But overall, it literally changed me as a person I realized in that moment because I’ve always had stuff to say, but I never wanted to be out front to say it because I’m one of those leaders that likes to push other people forward, which is fine.
18:51 But I was like, it’s my turn and if there’s a microphone, I’m going to pick it up and I’m going to say what I need to say, and I’ve just never put it down.
18:59 So I would say that’s what kind of changed who I was as far as saying, it’s OK.
19:05 Like I don’t need someone’s permission to tell me I can do this.
19:07 I think I was waiting for that, but it was really just myself, like I had to give myself that permission to say, you know, what, what you have to say is important enough to hear.
19:17 Right.
19:18 Absolutely.
19:18 I think that’s a beautiful statement.
19:20 And I think like a lot of times growing up our, you know, our parents’ voices or other people’s voices can matter more.
19:28 Like I, I even see this in my daughter some that like if I’m, I, I had to have this conversation with her about if mommy is upset with you about a decision, like it doesn’t change the fact that I love you and I’m proud of you, you.
19:44 And it’s amazing that like those two things can happen at the same time, I can be mad at you for being a little punk and I can love you still.
19:53 I it’s just I told her it’s like the Statue of Liberty, like it doesn’t move, and it doesn’t change.
19:59 And I associated as a child that love moved based upon what I did or didn’t do and how well you did it.
20:08 Yeah.
20:09 And I had to be an overachiever in everything to make sure I earned that Statue of Liberty.
20:15 Like, I don’t know how else to describe it, but that’s like how I was describing it to my kids, and it was like, it is solid.
20:20 Like there is nothing you can do to earn it or take it away; you could do whatever you wanted to anybody in this life and hurt them beyond belief.
20:27 And I would love you.
20:28 Like it just doesn’t change.
20:31 We all need that like flip that to ourselves.
20:34 Yeah.
20:35 Like that’s the hard part.
20:37 Absolutely.
20:38 And that like, it’s like no matter if you fail, if you succeed, like it is OK, you are loved and you are worthy and like you can like, I just want my kids to be able to stand in the foundation and like the security of that and so that they can own who they are and they’re not striving to get my approval right?
20:58 Or anybody’s any anybody.
21:00 Yeah.
21:00 But I think it starts at home like, like I your life like just trying to impress my dad.
21:06 You know, I know, I know.
21:07 And that’s the thing we like put all this stuff on ourselves and at the end of the day it’s like, man, there is so much like so much happiness that we could let go that we just haven’t learned to yet.
21:19 Why does it take to, like, you have to be old to figure it out.
21:23 Which I know.
21:25 I always think that I always think if I would have been this gung-ho and selfish or 20 years ago, you know what I could have done?
21:30 Like, I could, like, come on.
21:33 No, I could have, I could have moved those mountains.
21:35 I always tease my teenagers.
21:36 I’m like, your mom might not, can move mountains, but she can piss all over it and make a hell of a stench.
21:40 So, you know, if that’s all you can do, like then you stand in it and you do it, you know, like you do what you got to do to get belief in yourself and where you need to go.
21:49 Right?
21:49 What a beautiful message so beautiful with the message that like if we could have figured this out, like if some, if the things that we’ve been through or the stuff that we’ve been there, if we could have figured that out earlier, like earlier in life and if we could help the next generation figure it out that life, then like, they’re going to be so much more ahead of where we are because it’s like, I probably wouldn’t have wasted 10 years doing stuff.
22:18 I didn’t know what I was doing well, and I was, so I listened to your last podcast about that.
22:24 It’s not OK to be OK and maybe you’ve released one since then.
22:26 But that was the last one, my feed and it was very moving because I think we all struggle with our inner feelings and demons and turmoil’s and everything and some people just can’t share it like I’m, I’m a pretty private person.
22:41 I don’t share those kinds of things.
22:42 And so it was really nice to have you share and be able to like, relate to that.
22:46 And yeah, I wrote you a poem to end with.
22:49 When we get to that point about your podcast, I shared a poem with my friend the other day because that I wrote like a long time ago and I read it again and it just like, made me cry.
22:58 I was like, oh, that was like there is something that word.
23:02 Yeah, that can just like come from our souls.
23:05 I love this and my, I, I guess do you have daughters or sons?
23:11 Both?
23:12 You have both.
23:13 They are, two boys and a girl or two boys and a girl?
23:16 That’s what I have too.
23:18 I don’t know if it’s a, a female thing, or a male thing, but just my noticing of that approval truly coming like that my daughter desires that so much more than my son.
23:34 I don’t know if you noticed that, but like, because I went in and I told Trey and my son the same thing I was like, you know that like mama could be mad at you and love you like it did, you know.
23:43 And he was like, yeah, I was like, I know that.
23:47 Who doesn’t know that?
23:48 And I was like, like, why does it come so easy to you?
23:53 And like, is that why it takes women a little bit longer to figure out like to own their identity because they’re just like, I’m done doing shit for other people and making decisions to make them happy and I’m going to choose me and like, I, I don’t know if it’s like ingrained in us, if it’s the people pleasing.
24:12 I don’t know if you have any inside or notice that with your daughter.
24:15 But oh, I definitely feel like women we take on so much more and then we pile on our own too.
24:23 Whereas I think men, it’s not that they don’t take it on, but they don’t add their own crap to what’s already there.
24:28 Whereas we do.
24:29 It’s like, why do we do that?
24:31 I don’t know.
24:31 But I, yeah, I get what you’re saying, and I think boys are way easier to raise than like hands down like those that have a whole bunch of daughters.
24:39 I’m like, bless you, like, bless you.
24:42 I know.
24:43 You know, my daughter’s going to be 12 and I’m like, she like my husband and I were in the car the other day and we look at each other.
24:51 We’re like, what’s happening?
24:52 Like she’s just like, so many emotions and all the things that I’m like, I don’t know what else to do besides just like giggle internally.
25:00 Like we’ll get through this.
25:01 But this is great.
25:04 I know when my daughter graduated and spread her wings to fly, me and my husband both looked at each other.
25:09 We went, we did it.
25:10 We created a functioning human to go out into the world.
25:14 We survived like she survived.
25:16 We’re all OK because man, it gets rough like it’s just rough.
25:21 Oh my gosh.
25:23 I want to know when your book is coming out and when people can buy it or if it is.
25:28 Ok.
25:29 So now yes, share with us where we can get it because I would love to order some.
25:34 Oh, ok.
25:35 You can go to jennyajillofalltrades.com and it has all the links to like, Barnes and Noble and Walmart and Amazon and everywhere it’s being carried.
25:42 So that’s just so exciting.
25:44 And yeah, in a year, I’m hoping to have another one to add to that one.
25:49 Yay.
25:49 So you got in Walmart and Barnes and Noble.
25:52 And I know, I know, I don’t know.
25:59 I see.
26:01 But, well, I, so I had an awesome publisher.
26:04 She just changed the name of her publishing company, but it was Express yourself publishing.
26:11 Yeah, she was just really good, and it was just, it’s people are interested and so as long as they’re interested, those places will carry my stuff and So, yeah.
26:20 And I’m hoping people that if you have got it, you go leave a good review because that’s how people find it.
26:25 But.
26:25 Right.
26:26 Absolutely.
26:26 Reviews, reviews.
26:28 Ok.
26:28 I think I’m ready for your poem.
26:30 Ok.
26:32 So, so it’s about you and about sure it’s, it’s not OK to be ok.
26:37 And if anyone hasn’t checked out that podcast, you need to go hear it.
26:40 There’s a lot of emotion and feeling about just ourselves and dealing with all of that.
26:47 So that’s what it’s about.
26:48 Oh, thank you.
26:51 I was impressed by your reserve and knowing who you are by, you’re allowing yourself to stop, breathe, and set your own bar.
26:57 It’s ok to be weak and spend time on your knees.
27:00 It’s ok to hit the point where you have nothing but desperate.
27:03 Please.
27:04 The strength from community and speaking out helps to bolster all of us of that.
27:08 There’s no doubt I love that you were willing to share yourself raw to admit that you had reached so close to that last final straw to free fall without grabbing and trusting in you is a beautiful power.
27:20 We find when finding ways through your advice to others about not setting up camp, not living in sadness with a no end time stamp.
27:28 It hits pretty hard and brings up lots of feelings to feel, not letting the weight of life our happiness steal.
27:34 Thank you for knowing that people needed to hear everything you said.
27:38 About your sadness and fear.
27:39 We should all build ourselves on positive foundations, not a framework of sadnesses, pulling persuasions.
27:45 Everyone out there, go ahead and experience the sorrow.
27:49 But remember don’t stay there because there’s always tomorrow.
27:52 We instinctively know when it’s time to seek out a hand.
27:55 It’s really ok when things don’t turn out just as planned, we all drop some balls when we have all these struggles when we take on so much and we can’t seem to juggle, take time to stop and relish and a chance to go play.
28:08 Not everything needs fixed right now.
28:10 This minute today, never give up, go out there and slay being exactly who you are giving yourself and others.
28:16 The grace to shine like a star.
28:18 May we all find our path where we show up and defend where we truly are us and to our glory ascend?
28:25 Oh That was so beautiful.
28:27 Would you email that to me?
28:29 I will.
28:30 Oh I was like, don’t crack up, don’t, don’t cry, don’t do it.
28:36 But we all feel that way.
28:37 And it was so nice that you shared your thoughts and feelings and with those Hawaii fires and with everyone, I mean, there’s so much emotion out there and it was a lovely podcast to hear.
28:48 You know, I just was like, I processed out loud and by myself.
28:53 So like podcasts work well, for me, like I’m the person that’s driving in the car talking by myself because that’s like how I process.
28:59 And I’m like, I just felt moved and like I needed to get out the emotion that was, you know, because it was coming out in ways, I didn’t want it to, right?
29:08 Like I was being angry and short and impatient and I’m like, ok, like, we need to get it like up and out and it was just, you know, kind of felt inspired in the moment.
29:18 But thank you so very much.
29:21 That just means so much to me.
29:23 And if you could email it to me, I would love to print it and put it on my wall.
29:28 Oh, you are so sweet and so kind.
29:30 And what a blessing that like, I get to meet amazing people like you just because like, you know, the stuff that we go through and that it does like touch somebody else’s heart and if like, you’re the only one like that’s worth it to me, you know, I agree.
29:45 I agree.
29:45 And that’s, yeah, my whole purpose is just helping others find their path and whatever that looks like for them, right?
29:51 We are so lucky to like, meet other people that are freaking bad.
29:57 That’s why part I love the trades and I love these people because it’s like we all have this common thread and yet we’re different and we make it work, you know, and we, and we create the infrastructure of everything.
30:08 And so it’s just an amazing, amazing industry to be part of.
30:13 Yes, it is.
30:13 Thank you so much, Jenny.
30:15 Thank you for having me.
30:16 I’ll talk to you soon and have a wonderful day and I’m going to buy you, buy your books and I’m going to read them to my kids and share them with my little community and just keep on rocking it.
30:28 Hey, thanks, you too.
30:30 Ok.
30:30 Bye then.
30:31 Bye.
30:33 Thanks for joining me today on the She Build Show.
30:35 My name is Stefanie Olson.
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